What do you do when an adversary is using chaos as a strategy? You get smart. In the second edition of the new Power Vertical Podcast at CEPA, we look at a recent report by CEPA Senior Fellow Donald Jensen and CEPA President Peter Doran on the Kremlin’s strategy of chaos. Host Brian Whitmore, director of CEPA’s Russia program, previews his upcoming series on Hybrid Containment, a Western strategy for countering Moscow’s offensive. Joining me are CEPA fellows Donald N. Jensen and Maria Snegovaya.